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Against Heresies
Irenaeus of Lyons
Book 2 · Chapter 33 About this work A five-book account and refutation of competing Christian movements that also develops Irenaeus’s positive theology of creation, Scripture, apostolic tradition, incarnation, salvation, and recapitulation in Christ.
Author Irenaeus of Lyons
Date c. AD 175–185
Origin Lyons, Gaul
Genre Heresiology Absurdity of the doctrine of the transmigration of souls. Section 1 1 . We may subvert their doctrine as to
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transmigration
from
body
to
body
by
this
fact
,
that
souls
remember
nothing
whatever
of
the
events
which
took
place
in
their
previous
states
of
existence
.
For
if
they
were
sent
forth
with
this
object
,
that
they
should
have
experience
of
every
kind
of
action
,
they
must
of
necessity
retain
a
remembrance
of
those
things
which
have
been
previously
accomplished
,
that
they
might
fill
up
those
in
which
they
were
still
deficient
,
and
not
by
always
hovering
,
without
intermission
,
round
the
same
pursuits
,
spend
their
labour
wretchedly
in
vain
(
for
the
mere
union
of
a
body
[
with
a
soul
]
could
not
altogether
extinguish
the
memory
and
contemplation
of
those
things
which
had
formerly
been
experienced
)
,
and
especially
as
they
came
[
into
the
world
]
for
this
very
purpose
.
For
as
,
when
the
body
is
asleep
and
at
rest
,
whatever
things
the
soul
sees
by
herself
,
and
does
in
a
vision
,
recollecting
many
of
these
,
she
also
communicates
them
to
the
body
;
and
as
it
happens
that
,
when
one
awakes
,
perhaps
after
a
long
time
,
he
relates
what
he
saw
in
a
dream
,
so
also
would
he
undoubtedly
remember
those
things
which
he
did
before
he
came
into
this
particular
body
.
For
if
that
which
is
seen
only
for
a
very
brief
space
of
time
,
or
has
been
conceived
of
simply
in
a
phantasm
,
and
by
the
soul
alone
,
through
means
of
a
dream
,
is
remembered
after
she
has
mingled
again
with
the
body
,
and
been
dispersed
through
all
the
members
,
much
more
would
she
remember
those
things
in
connection
with
which
she
stayed
during
so
long
a
time
,
even
throughout
the
whole
period
of
a
bypast
life
.
Section 2 2 . With reference to these objections , Plato , that ancient Athenian , who also was the first to introduce this opinion , when he could not set them aside , invented the [ notion of ] a cup of oblivion , imagining that in this way he would escape this sort of difficulty . He attempted no kind of proof [ of his supposition ] , but simply replied dogmatically [ to the objection in question ] , that when souls enter into this life , they are caused to drink of oblivion by that demon who watches their entrance [ into the world ] , before they effect an entrance into the bodies [ assigned them ] . It escaped him , that [ by speaking thus ] he fell into another greater perplexity . For if the cup of oblivion , after it has been drunk , can obliterate the memory of all the deeds that have been done , how , O Plato , dost thou obtain the knowledge of this fact ( since thy soul is now in the body ) , that , before it entered into the body , it was made to drink by the demon a drug which caused oblivion ? For if thou hast a remembrance of the demon , and the cup , and the entrance [ into life ] , thou oughtest also to be acquainted with other things ; but if , on the other hand , thou art ignorant of them , then there is no truth in the story of the demon , nor in the cup of oblivion prepared with art .
Section 3 3 . In opposition , again , to those who affirm that the body itself is the drug of oblivion , this observation may be made : How , then , does it come to pass , that whatsoever the soul sees by her own instrumentality , both in dreams and by reflection or earnest mental exertion , while the body is passive , she remembers , and reports to her neighbours ? But , again , if the body itself were [ the cause of ] oblivion , then the soul , as existing in the body , could not remember even those things which were perceived long ago either by means of the eyes or the ears ; but , as soon as the eye was turned from the things looked at , the memory of them also would undoubtedly be destroyed . For the soul , as existing in the very [ cause of ] oblivion , could have no knowledge of anything else than that only which it saw at the present moment . How , too , could it become acquainted with divine things , and retain a remembrance of them while existing in the body , since , as they maintain , the body itself is [ the cause of ] oblivion ? But the prophets also , when they were upon the earth , remembered likewise , on their returning to their ordinary state of mind , whatever things they spiritually saw or heard in visions of heavenly objects , and related them to others . The body , therefore , does not cause the soul to forget those things which have been spiritually witnessed ; but the soul teaches the body , and shares with it the spiritual vision which it has enjoyed .
Section 4 4 . For the body is not possessed of greater power than the soul , since indeed the former is inspired , and vivified , and increased , and held together by the latter ; but the soul possesses and rules over the body . It is doubtless retarded in its velocity , just in the exact proportion in which the body shares in its motion ; but it never loses the knowledge which properly belongs to it . For the body may be compared to an instrument ; but the soul is possessed of the reason of an artist . As , therefore , the artist finds the idea of a work to spring up rapidly in his mind , but can only carry it out slowly by means of an instrument , owing to the want of perfect pliability in the matter acted upon , and thus the rapidity of his mental operation , being blended with the slow action of the instrument , gives rise to a moderate kind of movement [ towards the end contemplated ] ; so also the soul , by being mixed up with the body belonging to it , is in a certain measure impeded , its rapidity being blended with the body’s slowness . Yet it does not lose altogether its own peculiar powers ; but while , as it were , sharing life with the body , it does not itself cease to live . Thus , too , while communicating other things to the body , it neither loses the knowledge of them , nor the memory of those things which have been witnessed .
Section 5 5 . If , therefore , the soul remembers nothing of what took place in a former state of existence , but has a perception of those things which are here , it follows that she never existed in other bodies , nor did things of which she has no knowledge , nor [ once ] knew things which she cannot [ now mentally ] contemplate . But , as each one of us receives his body through the skilful working of God , so does he also possess his soul . For God is not so poor or destitute in resources , that He cannot confer its own proper soul on each individual body , even as He gives it also its special character . And therefore , when the number [ fixed upon ] is completed , [ that number ] which He had predetermined in His own counsel , all those who have been enrolled for life [ eternal ] shall rise again , having their own bodies , and having also their own souls , and their own spirits , in which they had pleased God . Those , on the other hand , who are worthy of punishment , shall go away into it , they too having their own souls and their own bodies , in which they stood apart from the grace of God . Both classes shall then cease from any longer begetting and being begotten , from marrying and being given in marriage ; so that the number of mankind , corresponding to the fore - ordination of God , being completed , may fully realize the scheme formed by the Father .
Notes 296 Harvey thinks that this parenthesis has fallen out of its proper place, and would insert it immediately after the opening period of the chapter.
297 It is a mistake of Irenæus to say that the doctrine of metempsychosis originated with Plato: it was first publicly taught by Pythagoras, who learned it from the Egyptians. Comp. Clem. Alex., Strom., i. 15: Herodot., ii. 123.
298 “In hominem conversi,” literally, “returning into man.”
299 “Possidet.” Massuet supposes this word to represent κυριεύει, “rules over” and Stieren κρατύνει, governs; while Harvey thinks the whole clause corresponds to κρατεῖ καὶ κυριεύει τοῦ σώματος, which we have rendered above.
300 Literally, none of things past.
301 The Latin text is here very confused, but the Greek original of the greater part of this section has happily been preserved. [This Father here anticipates in outline many ideas which St. Augustine afterwards corrected and elaborated.]